「割った石の面を見る最初の人間なんだなって」 - 島本健一郎さん(後編)

"I was the first person to see the other side of the broken stone" - Kenichiro Shimamoto (Part 2)

This article is in the second half.

The first half of the interview is here . We talked about the production of ROCK END.

"I'm particular about the 'sitting' of ROCK END" - Kenichiro Shimamoto (Part 1)

Aji stone is "a stone that meets the expectations of its creators"

About Shimamoto Stone Industry
Shimamoto Stone Industry is known for its high level of polishing skills.
Shimamoto-san

When it comes to polishing, we are quite highly regarded in the production area. However, this is something that was built up through the hard work of our previous craftsmen, and it is a technique unique to that person. And those craftsmen are no longer around.
When I started polishing it myself, I was using the same tools and following the same process, but it was so different that I thought, "What is this?" I've seen the finished product and the work process many times, so I remember how the light from the fluorescent lights and mercury lamps in the factory reflects on the stone. "This stone would shine like this." But when I actually tried it...
I have once again come to realise just how difficult it is to make a stone shine in a natural way.

Please tell me about the difficulties of polishing.
Shimamoto-san

For example, we have an automatic polishing machine, and since it's called automatic, once you set it, it will automatically complete the polishing process, which has various grits and several steps. However, our craftsman was always standing next to the polishing machine.
For gloss, the previous work is very important, so you have to watch the previous process. In other words, even if it is a machine, you have to be there from start to finish and watch the condition of the stone surface for each grit, otherwise you cannot judge the amount of water or the condition of the whetstone... that's what it means.

You deal with many types of stone, but what kind of stone is Aji stone?
Shimamoto-san

There are some difficulties, such as having to align the grain of the stones and they are expensive, but from the perspective of the craftsman, it is easy to make them in a sense. They meet expectations, and turn out just as you expect. With stones with large grain, it simply doesn't turn out the way you expect it to. It takes a lot of time, and it's frustrating...I think that's reflected directly in the product.

Of course, you have to be careful not to do this with any stone, but this rarely happens with Aji stone. I can polish it nicely, process it, and make things with it... that's what makes it an Aji stone.

Is there anything Shimamoto Sekizai Kogyo is currently challenging itself with?
Shimamoto-san

I'm about to start a new business. Some people have told me, "Shimamoto-kun, if you're a stonemason, wouldn't it be better for your customers to feel at ease if you run a stonemason shop properly?" I think that's true, and I'm still conflicted about it, but now is the youngest time of my life, so I thought, "If I'm going to do it, now is the time!" and I'll do what I can do, what's interesting.

With this in mind, in our new logo we changed the "yu" in "Shimamoto Stone Industry Co., Ltd." to "yu" (play) (laughs).

Reset your mind in an environment where you can hear the same voices and feel the same way

About "Craftsman Kenichiro Shimamoto"
When did you decide you wanted to become a stonemason?
Shimamoto-san

I went to Osaka right after graduating from high school, and at that time I wanted to do voice work. So I went to that school and studied for a year. At the end of that, I had the opportunity to "act" and I went on stage... well, the people watching were all my family, but it was so moving that I couldn't believe my eyes. I thought it was amazing. So I thought I'd like to learn acting as well, so after graduating from school, I became one of the early members of a new theater company that was starting up around Toyonaka... I think it was about three years? I appeared on various stages... and that's how I spent my time.

My wife was also studying with me at the time, but she found the backstage work interesting, so she worked alongside the stage director and did various things. Then, when we decided to get married, I realized that it would be difficult to make a living from just the stage, so I talked it over with her and she said, "Let's take over the stonemason's shop," and I came back here.

Do you feel that your experience in theater is still useful to you today?
Shimamoto-san

I don't know if that's coming through, but when I'm explaining something to a customer, I think I'm good at thinking about how to make it easy to understand, and thinking about things objectively, rather than subjectively or one-sidedly. Choosing my words might be one example of that.

Do you have a favorite tool or favorite task when it comes to processing?
Shimamoto-san

My favorite tool... Maybe a grinder? There is something called grinder paper, and I also use it to finish the split surfaces of ROCK END. It removes the blade marks on the surface after cutting, making it smooth, but it doesn't have too much shine... I like the subtle matte finish.

I don't have any particular preference for manufacturers, but I've always used the same tools that my predecessor used.

Do you have any favorite tools or must-have items?
Shimamoto-san

It's similar to Okada-san , but it's sound and music. I listen to music on my smartphone and podcasts, but I basically listen to a certain group's chat on YouTube all the time. I feel relieved to have sound casually in front of my ears. And on the contrary, it helps me concentrate. I've been doing that for a long time.
They deliver new songs once a week, but there are some that I listen to several times. Even when I'm feeling anxious or impatient, I feel reassured knowing that the same voice is there every day, in the same tone as always. It calms me down, resets me, and helps me get through today.

Please tell us your thoughts on stone as a material.
Shimamoto-san

I don't really feel anything when I see the stone in the factory. But there are moments when I feel the earth, history, or something like that. It's the same with ROCK END, but the moment I split the stone, I feel like it touches the air for the first time in tens of millions of years. There are moments when I suddenly feel like this side was supposed to be invisible forever, and that I'm the first person to see it.

(Photos left and top right) They also use many stones other than Aji stone. (Photo bottom right) This chair has been used by generations since the restaurant days. It has been in use for over 100 years and is still in use today.